We don't make the rules. We just play by them.

The Baja is a survival race, and there is no break, but you're not up on the wheel all day in the Baja like you are in Winston Cup or at Indy.

I get to do the Dakar Rally. I get to do the Daytona 500. I get to do the Indy 500. I'm very fortunate to get to do these things.

I love the Dakar Rally, the Baja stuff.

NASCAR, there's nothing wrong with it, it's very competitive, but the specs are very tight on tolerances.

You don't come around to the pit lane every mile; when you leave on a rally, you're gone for 500 miles in certain stages. You've got to work on your own car and fix it. It's a logistical nightmare, and it really challenges me.