Another example of that was that even during the economic problems of the 1945 government, we managed to carry out other aspects of our policy and other ideals. Through the establishment of national parks, for instance.

You see, another reason for nationalization was that private ownership meant fragmentation.

And what always struck me about that war period was how even Churchill had to talk socialism to keep up people's morale.

In politics, guts is all.

And that had a powerful appeal, particularly to those who had been denied the choice to stay on at school, to go to university, to be something else, other than going down the pit.

And that will increasingly dawn on people. The demand for controlling the commanding heights will grow.